11/18/22: PT paper accepted!

Agenda and Minutes

Apollo era crew capsule (at Meteor Crater visitor center and museum in Arizona).

Updates

  • HA: We need to wait for the paper to be published. Waiting for the bill, which we will split as appropriate. Dept. may help.
    • Needs a specific project description for recruiting a data science student.
  • PT: Paper was accepted!
    • Here are the final reviews:

      • Reviewer #1: It will be unfortunate if the comments by Reviewer #2 has more or less encouraged citation of the corresponding authors thus resulting in additional citation of the particular reviewer's publications.

        Reviewer #2: The revision covers all of my concerns and in this regard paper can be accepted for publication.

  • This refers to the following reviewer 2 comment from the previous review:

I see the paper as a valuable one however there are some papers that the authors omitted. The elimination amount of the irrelevant papers appears too high. Authors should at least consider the following papers for their review.

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    • We could incorporate these last reviews by reducing the number of papers we cite by reviewer 2 from three to one. Reviewer 1 seems to think that reviewer 2 was out of line in wanting their papers cited, and it is a bit questionable, but also, reviewers are not generally compensated for their valuable and expert service, so perhaps they are entitled to something.
  • Recent space activities? 
      • Artemis 1 launched! Finally.
        • Payload: Orion capsule with no crew, will not be reused, and short lifetime of 25 days ending in reentry and recovery
          • Contents: instruments, etc.
        • Payloads: Multiple CubeSats including JAXA's OMOTENASHI
      • Mars Orbiter Mission. News of its ending recently was received. (Ended Oct. 3?)
      • DART mission update next time? Camera (LICIAcube) is still in existence.
      • NASA's InSight Mars lander on the verge of ending due to dust.
      • Here is the lunar calendar for 2022. This is a new potential hiccup in developing a Moore's law for deep space vessel lifetimes.
        1. Launched: CAPSTONE, a 12-unit CubeSat, lunar orbiter with 9-month planned lifetime, launched after delays. Launch vehicle Lunar Photon may also be a separate independent deep space vessel.
        2. Future: CLPS-1 (Peregrine Mission One), launching in Q4 2022
          • Payload: Peregrine lander with short lifetime
            • Contents: rovers, instruments, etc. with longer lifetimes
        3. Future: CLPS-2 (IM-1) (Intuitive Machines 1), launching Dec. 22
          • Payload: Nova-C lander (lifetime: 1 lunar day)
            • Contents: instruments, rover, CubeSat camera
          • DOGE 1 (CubeSat)
          • Lunar Flashlight (CubeSat)
        4. Future: Luna 25, launching Sept. (doubtful?) by Russia
      • Future: Smart Lander for Investigating Moon (SLIM), JAXA vessel launching in 2022, short lifetime of 2-3 weeks in orbit and several days after landing
2. Reading and discussion

  • Reading for today: From Jonathan's Space Pages, https://www.planet4589.org, we started examining the various data files ("catalogs") and their documentation pages. Vote was 4. The location is https://planet4589.org/space/index.html.
    • We read more of "GCAT: General Catalog of Artificial Space Objects," a documentation page at https://planet4589.org/space/gcat/index.html. We got up to the paragraph beginning "Each object (with rare exceptions)..." and will start there this time.

Meeting ended here.

  • Readings that have been rated: we previously scanned and voted on them and they might or might not be read in more depth at some point. Listed in decreasing order of vote score. 
    • One of McDowell's *yearly* (not the more frequent news) reports, in particular, the most recent one: https://planet4589.org/space/papers/space21.pdf. We read through the first paragraph of section 1.1. Vote to continue was 4.
    • Already voted on: Portland International Conference on Management of Engineering and Technology. Let's find out more about it. We skimmed https://www.picmet.org/main/ and the question next is whether we want to read through the site in more detail. Do we search this site for another paper/papers to read? Vote was 3 11/12.
    • Already voted on. We found that the paper at https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-40896-1_3 seems like it might be a good paper for us to read. Vote was 3.9.
    • Already voted on: One candidate: https://hrcak.srce.hr/file/394111 is a recent account of using DEA (which is part of TFDEA). We rechecked the abstract and read the first paragraph. Votes were: 3,5,2,5,4, averaging 3.8. 
    • Goldin et al., The Productivity Paradox, https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs201/projects/productivity-paradox/. We read the "Home" tab and 2 paragraphs of the "Background" tab. Vote to continue reading was: 3.5.
    • 5/20/22: We read the enlarged font paragraph at the beginning of "Women's Place in Space Exploration, 1996, ...\femaleAstronauts\relatedArticles\WomenPlaceInSpaceExplorationRef2.pdf. Vote was 3 1/3.
    • Already voted on: The Institute for Progress. They address questions like what policies and social factors affect technological progress. We will try out a bit of https://progress.institute/immigration-powers-american-progress/ to see if we want to read it in full. Vote was 3 2/7.
    • Voted on 4/15/22: One of McDowell's update reports, available on the website. Link is: https://planet4589.org/space/jsr/jsr.html. We checked #804. Vote was 3 1/12.
  • Possible readings/videos that have not yet been scanned and voted on. As time allows, read/view paragraph/minute or two of each and vote: Should we read it in more depth? 5=strongly agree, 4=agree, 3=neutral, 2=disagree, 1=strongly disagree.
    • Newly added 9/16/22: J. Trancik, Testing and improving technology forecasts for better climate policy, PNAS 2021.
    • Chad Jones, https://web.stanford.edu/~chadj/, writes about endogenous growth theory.
    • Pantelis Koutroumpis, The Productivity Paradox, a report.
    • Some interesting videos are at the Kartik Gada channel such as at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuRX67CJhaOT98Jdjh85CEQ which we discussed previously.
    • https://www.planet4589.org. Astronautics section. Something we haven't read yet, like one of the yearly reports. 
    • Future Spaceflight Meditations, a cosmist perspective, by Jiulio Prisco, physicist formerly with the ESA.
  • Completed readings
    • We finished section 6 of MR paper (C:\Users\jdberleant\Dropbox\research\SpaceTravelMetric-b6-5-16\PapersAndPresentations\byOthers\MatthewRoughanDraft.pdf). This completes the parts that we planned to read. 
    • Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9o66fH_sgo (about MOXIE device which converts CO2 to oxygen). We then read a bit more about MOXIE on wikipedia.
    • Https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/07/we-need-new-science-progress/594946 on "progress studies." Completed 9/30/22.
    • Ryan et al., "A Forgotten Moment in Physiology: the Lovelace Woman in Space Program (1960-1962)", 2009. Completed 7/22/22.
    • Various previous papers.
  • Here are some generic questions about articles (and videos):
    • What is the source?
    • What is the most significant advance in the human knowledge presented in the paper?
    • Why is that advance important?
    • What important questions arise from the paper for future research?
    • What important questions would it be nice if the paper answered, but does not answer?
    • What does the paper present that is novel (no one else has provided that before)?
    • What is the relevance of the paper to our satellite research goals?
    • Questions from the group?

 

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